More questions on BlackGuard.

hero · Post by **hero** » Sat Aug 14, 2004 3:03 pm

I have tried a rogue/fighter/bg combo....lv 2/6/7. It wasn't outstanding enough since it was just a fighter with turn and summon ablity.

than i tried the rogue/pally/bg combo....lv 2/5/8. didn't turn out well, probably cause i didn't plan the character well.

my starting stats:

str:16
dex:10
con:14
wis:12
int:10
cha:14

is there anything i need to change? and what stat should i rise?

since my first job is rogue, i have lots of skill points to spend..what should i spend them on, the skillz i took r lore, persuade, hide...than i saved 4 for later on use for displine....but dat still leaves lots of points behind...should i put some skillz into hide(besides the 5 require to become the black guard)and move silently, and put some in to spot and listen? or even use of magic device?

after taking 1 lvl of rogue, i took soem lvls in pally. the question is how many pally lvl should i take, since i won't go back to be a lawful good.

my last queston is: is there any more special skillz my blackguard can learn after lvl 10?

Noober · Post by **Noober** » Sun Aug 15, 2004 1:10 am

Rogue/Pally/Blackguard = BAD because of difficult stat distribution and feats.

The best pally/blackguards concentrate on CHA, but if you go rogue then thats not really an option.

hero · Post by **hero** » Sun Aug 15, 2004 9:27 am

but i am just using to boost hide and have some extra skill points to spend...rougue really isn't an important part.

Drakosha · Post by **Drakosha** » Tue Aug 17, 2004 5:12 am

[QUOTE=hero]I have tried a rogue/fighter/bg combo....[/QUOTE]
Why you want add for your rogue builds BG? BG is good for utilizing CHA bonus into saves. if you desire to play rogue-type character,try next pseudo-thief :
Bard/rdd/BG. or just Bard/fighter/BG. for bard you can put good amount of stat-points into CHA and wear items with CHA improvement,so BG will bring such bonus as universal save.

also you'll injoy 90% of rogue abilities + you can cast some cool bardic spells and sing songs,that noone can dispel.

Noober · Post by **Noober** » Tue Aug 17, 2004 6:01 am

[QUOTE=Drakosha]Why you want add for your rogue builds BG? BG is good for utilizing CHA bonus into saves. if you desire to play rogue-type character,try next pseudo-thief :
Bard/rdd/BG. or just Bard/fighter/BG. for bard you can put good amount of stat-points into CHA and wear items with CHA improvement,so BG will bring such bonus as universal save.

also you'll injoy 90% of rogue abilities + you can cast some cool bardic spells and sing songs,that noone can dispel.[/QUOTE]

Well, Bard/RDD/BG > Bard/Fighter/BG, but then again Bard/RDD/Pally > Bard/RDD/BG. Of course, the best is still Sorc/Pally/BG.

Drakosha · Post by **Drakosha** » Tue Aug 17, 2004 6:52 am

[QUOTE=Noober]Well, Bard/RDD/BG > Bard/Fighter/BG, but then again Bard/RDD/Pally > Bard/RDD/BG. Of course, the best is still Sorc/Pally/BG.[/QUOTE]

it's strange how you are genering characters. i don`t have any ethical problem that no DMs will permit life of such mutants,but that building such char will requests multiple changes of aligment. bard's level can`t be naturaly taken with paladin's.

hero · Post by **hero** » Tue Aug 17, 2004 9:35 am

i don't think i am making a caster....i am making a fighter with pally or bg's ablities....bard cast arcane spells...ac will be a big problem.....

Drakosha · Post by **Drakosha** » Tue Aug 17, 2004 11:36 pm

[QUOTE=hero]i don't think i am making a caster....i am making a fighter with pally or bg's ablities....bard cast arcane spells...ac will be a big problem.....[/QUOTE]

if you wanna play pally char ,then try pal/ChoT/monk, or Pal/ChoT/rogue. you'll need about 15 level of paladin to get all of his spells (Holy Avenger rocks on wizards). you can take monk up to 6 levels just for free knockdowns and maxing tumble skill ot 1-2 levels of rogue.

Noober · Post by **Noober** » Wed Aug 18, 2004 2:59 am

[QUOTE=Drakosha]it's strange how you are genering characters. i don`t have any ethical problem that no DMs will permit life of such mutants,but that building such char will requests multiple changes of aligment. bard's level can`t be naturaly taken with paladin's.[/QUOTE]

First of all, what does "genering" mean.

Secondly, alignment changes are very easy to achieve, with the exception of chaotic->lawful etc. And most level-up modules (for pvp) will give you alignment change options.

And my mistake, I meant Sorc/Pally/RDD (which is a melee build).

Drakosha · Post by **Drakosha** » Wed Aug 18, 2004 3:37 am

oopsi. i meant generating. pardon my english

i personaly prefare to generate "clean" characters without aligment changes. last year i played on 6-8 servers and only on 1-2 of them i could change my aligment evil->good or good->evil. And some time that was hard and took time.

Noober · Post by **Noober** » Thu Aug 19, 2004 7:23 pm

Well some of the best characters for pvp need alignment changes, plus I love playing fallen Pally/Blackguards.