[QUOTE=Demon_dave]well my main character is lawfully good i belileve. erm im guessing this person im meant to be rescuing is in the cave at the bottomleft of the screen (if u look at the map) where there are those blue critters and an annoying worm thing? am i correct or am i looking in the wrong area?[/QUOTE]
The first time I looked for her I had trouble, too. Fog of War hides her. If you've gone over the fortress area, you'll see holes with what look like pillars in them. Those pillars are actually stairs. She's in one of those holes.
The mountainside caves have goodies in them, especially one cave and a particular book.
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ah thanks for that, i found the girl in the hole, only found her by chance, i accidentally found out those poloes were stairs by clickin on them. pure fluke but very lucky ey. im now in the mines killin lil buggers who jump out of the dark. im on the 3rd level i think and i keep setting off these traps which conciquently start killing off valuable members of my team!! i have used te ability to reveal the traps so they apear red. but how do i get over them without setting them off or cant you? or must i find a seperate route around?
You have to use your thief's ( most probably Imoen ) abilities to disable traps....Thiefs can locate and disable traps. You have figured out the red "alarm" for the traps allready, now use the thief's button ( forgot which one, cause it's some time that I played the game ), there will be a special cursor appearing and you can disable the trap if your thief is good enough too....
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Galuf's guide to the Thief.
Allow me to elaborate.
To detect and disarm traps, follow this procedure
1) Click the button that looks like a 4 triangles forming a target. Wait about 5-10 seconds.
2) The traps will appear in red. Unfortunately, you'll have to watch the area tentalively since there is no sound that is made when they're discovered.
3) When a trap is found, click on the icon that appears like a sideways 8. Hover the cursor that appears over the trap. The cursor will turn into a snare. Now click on the trap and the thief will attempt to disarm it.
4) As long as you have enough ranks in the thief skill "Detect Traps," you should have no problem disarming any traps.
5) I'd suggest anywhere from 30 to 40 ranks in the skill for the Nashkel Mines, and primarily raise those skills (since the best armor and boots for a thief increases their Stealth skill, and potions that will raise your Pick Pockets skill as well).
Allow me to elaborate.
To detect and disarm traps, follow this procedure
1) Click the button that looks like a 4 triangles forming a target. Wait about 5-10 seconds.
2) The traps will appear in red. Unfortunately, you'll have to watch the area tentalively since there is no sound that is made when they're discovered.
3) When a trap is found, click on the icon that appears like a sideways 8. Hover the cursor that appears over the trap. The cursor will turn into a snare. Now click on the trap and the thief will attempt to disarm it.
4) As long as you have enough ranks in the thief skill "Detect Traps," you should have no problem disarming any traps.
5) I'd suggest anywhere from 30 to 40 ranks in the skill for the Nashkel Mines, and primarily raise those skills (since the best armor and boots for a thief increases their Stealth skill, and potions that will raise your Pick Pockets skill as well).
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thanks for that. the first few times i was playing and walked across these traps i didnt even know they were traps. first i thought my team had been poisoned or something and just dropped dead, ten i noticed arrows shotting them so i thought lord of the rings style thing happing when they are running away from the balrog and little orcs were shooting me from either side of the bridge. the little imps or whatever u refer to them in the mines are so easy to kill they dont show much of a threat, im kinda hopeing to get everyone on their second level while going through the mine, but with only getting 7 or something stupidly small exp point for each kill its gonna take a lifetime to reach this goal. ideally need to find something easy to kill that gives a decent amount of exp (and gold since its always nice to have it) to level up a bit.
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[QUOTE=Demon_dave]thanks for that. the first few times i was playing and walked across these traps i didnt even know they were traps. first i thought my team had been poisoned or something and just dropped dead, ten i noticed arrows shotting them so i thought lord of the rings style thing happing when they are running away from the balrog and little orcs were shooting me from either side of the bridge. the little imps or whatever u refer to them in the mines are so easy to kill they dont show much of a threat, im kinda hopeing to get everyone on their second level while going through the mine, but with only getting 7 or something stupidly small exp point for each kill its gonna take a lifetime to reach this goal. ideally need to find something easy to kill that gives a decent amount of exp (and gold since its always nice to have it) to level up a bit.[/QUOTE]
Well, I usually get some quests done before I venture into the mines, one of them in the immediate outside map (but VERY dangerous for a 1st-level party). By the time I cleared the mines, I had a reputation score of about 17 (which is pretty high).
I usually get these quests done before entering the mines, separated by area (note: * = technically not a quest, but counts as modest experience and gets placed in the journal)
Friendly Arm Inn:
- Retrieving Joia's Flamedance Ring
- Retrieving the Girdle of Piercing for Unshey (tempting quest, since you could easily find use for such a girdle, and it's the only one of its kind in the game)
Beregost:
- Retrieving a note from a missing messenger for Lady Mirianne
- Calming down Marl in Feldepost's Inn
- Defeating Silke
- Killing Karlat the mercenary in the Red Sheaf Inn*
Nashkel:
- De-confusing Oublek the bounty
- Killing the bounty hunter in the Nashkel Inn*
- Turning in stolen emeralds
- Listen to Noober's banter until he's had enough
Nashkel Mines:
- Rescuing Prism the renegade artist (VERY DANGEROUS at 1st level; also where the stolen emeralds come from)
There might be more that I did, but that's about all I can think of.
Well, I usually get some quests done before I venture into the mines, one of them in the immediate outside map (but VERY dangerous for a 1st-level party). By the time I cleared the mines, I had a reputation score of about 17 (which is pretty high).
I usually get these quests done before entering the mines, separated by area (note: * = technically not a quest, but counts as modest experience and gets placed in the journal)
Friendly Arm Inn:
- Retrieving Joia's Flamedance Ring
- Retrieving the Girdle of Piercing for Unshey (tempting quest, since you could easily find use for such a girdle, and it's the only one of its kind in the game)
Beregost:
- Retrieving a note from a missing messenger for Lady Mirianne
- Calming down Marl in Feldepost's Inn
- Defeating Silke
- Killing Karlat the mercenary in the Red Sheaf Inn*
Nashkel:
- De-confusing Oublek the bounty
- Killing the bounty hunter in the Nashkel Inn*
- Turning in stolen emeralds
- Listen to Noober's banter until he's had enough
Nashkel Mines:
- Rescuing Prism the renegade artist (VERY DANGEROUS at 1st level; also where the stolen emeralds come from)
There might be more that I did, but that's about all I can think of.
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ah fair enough i will do them after the mine since u only get 1 day in there. so was i slightly a bit ambisious/mental trying to take on the whole mine with creatures gradually getting harder as u travel down and probably some mean ass bugger at the bottom after a massive fight with most of my team on level 1 still. ah well at least its gonna be challenging lol. i always have to take th easy route ey on my first go and i land myself up almost screwing up everthing with minsc and now stuck in a mine lol. i will conquor the lil buggers tho!!
[QUOTE=Demon_dave]ah fair enough i will do them after the mine since u only get 1 day in there. so was i slightly a bit ambisious/mental trying to take on the whole mine with creatures gradually getting harder as u travel down and probably some mean ass bugger at the bottom after a massive fight with most of my team on level 1 still. ah well at least its gonna be challenging lol. i always have to take th easy route ey on my first go and i land myself up almost screwing up everthing with minsc and now stuck in a mine lol. i will conquor the lil buggers tho!![/QUOTE]
You don't have to just sit around in the mine and you have as much time as you want to clear them out. You can return to the surface and do whatever traveling or questing or healing you like before returning and cleaning out the Nashkel Mines. Oh, and those little imps running around shooting arrows at you are kobolds. The name is german for "goblin" and that's essentially what they are, though slightly different. Don't underestimate them, because some of them will be kobold commandos who shoot arrows of fire and are much harder to kill in comparison to the other little guys, especially at your low level. The final battle in the mines is a good test of ability and it yeilds some good treasure/loot so enjoy!
You don't have to just sit around in the mine and you have as much time as you want to clear them out. You can return to the surface and do whatever traveling or questing or healing you like before returning and cleaning out the Nashkel Mines. Oh, and those little imps running around shooting arrows at you are kobolds. The name is german for "goblin" and that's essentially what they are, though slightly different. Don't underestimate them, because some of them will be kobold commandos who shoot arrows of fire and are much harder to kill in comparison to the other little guys, especially at your low level. The final battle in the mines is a good test of ability and it yeilds some good treasure/loot so enjoy!
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yea i found one of those fire firing kobolds on one of my mad runs. you see to help me out when mass people have died in the mine i do a "mad one" which is basically taking the remainin people who are alive (normally 1 or 2) and quickly run through the mine, scouting the area so i have a rough idea when i start the game up again in which direction and routes i should use. and yea i found one of the fire firing kobolds, and yes his shot hit me and yes it killed me! as you can imagine i was not impressed. and was also wondering "what the hell was that?" lol.
I thought the guy at the mine who gives you permiion to go in says you only have a day in there. so i asummed going back up to the surface and travelling loads would make my day pass so i couldnt go back in, or shouldnt i take the "you only have a day" thing seriously?
I thought the guy at the mine who gives you permiion to go in says you only have a day in there. so i asummed going back up to the surface and travelling loads would make my day pass so i couldnt go back in, or shouldnt i take the "you only have a day" thing seriously?
[QUOTE=Demon_dave]yea i found one of those fire firing kobolds on one of my mad runs. you see to help me out when mass people have died in the mine i do a "mad one" which is basically taking the remainin people who are alive (normally 1 or 2) and quickly run through the mine, scouting the area so i have a rough idea when i start the game up again in which direction and routes i should use. and yea i found one of the fire firing kobolds, and yes his shot hit me and yes it killed me! as you can imagine i was not impressed. and was also wondering "what the hell was that?" lol.
I thought the guy at the mine who gives you permiion to go in says you only have a day in there. so i asummed going back up to the surface and travelling loads would make my day pass so i couldnt go back in, or shouldnt i take the "you only have a day" thing seriously?[/QUOTE]
You can take as long as you want down there. You can't finish the chapter without clearing out the mines and finding out what is going on down there. Besides, they need your help so why would they give you a timeline?
I thought the guy at the mine who gives you permiion to go in says you only have a day in there. so i asummed going back up to the surface and travelling loads would make my day pass so i couldnt go back in, or shouldnt i take the "you only have a day" thing seriously?[/QUOTE]
You can take as long as you want down there. You can't finish the chapter without clearing out the mines and finding out what is going on down there. Besides, they need your help so why would they give you a timeline?
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right well today i went through the mines, i managed to disarm all the traps with Imoen. i managed to get all the way to Xan (i think thats who the elf guy is down there) with only 3 people dead, so i traded a dead person for him since i knew i had to fight that big bugger down there. well here i use dsome sneaky tactics because i didnt know how strong he would be and how many little critters would come to his aid. so i gave my main character and Imoen oil of speed potions. i also gave minsc the potion of giant strength or something so his strength went to 25. so i had minsc killing anything with one blow and anyone stupid enough to come within my main character and Imoens line of sight to shoot to bits with their arrows. well naturally i slaughtered that guy down there in seconds, i didnt even get the option to spare him or not because i killed him that fast, or if i did i dont remember seeing it. so im now out of the mine with lots of new items woohoo. got to find josephs wife to give her his ring, cant remeber where she is tho. well thats the update for you all. im on chapter 3 now obviously
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hi well this is an update of what i have done. i went through the mines today. i managed to get to the bottom with only losing 3 people out of my team of 6. well i found Xan (i think thats who the elf guy is down there) and dropped of a dead person for him for extra man power, however i then foudn out he is prety crap only being able to weild a knife i found, which was very lame indeed but hey man power does help i guess. well i then did something really sneaky yet i thought was a bloody genious plan of mine, which you will love. i gave Imoen and my main character oil of speed because they both have bow weapons, and gave minsc the potion of giant strength making him some godlike being having 25 as his strength and killing anything with one blow. well i then took on the stupid git down there who decided he would try and challenge me, it must have been the fastest fights ever, i think minsc must have hit him or something because before a few seconds had past he was dead on teh floor, i didnt even see the sign o him asking for mercy, lol. i then had a mass massacre of the lil critters he summoned for help - the fools were dead to oin seconds Imoen and main character made sure of that with the arrows and if they got close enough minsc had his 25 strength to flaunt lol. well now im out of the mine and in chapter 3 obviously. gone back to the inn in beregost. where some bounty guy is going to try and kill my already beatn team. so going to rest a bit to heal myself first before trying to kill him. well thats the update for you all.
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[QUOTE=Demon_dave]hi well this is an update of what i have done. i went through the mines today. i managed to get to the bottom with only losing 3 people out of my team of 6. well i found Xan (i think thats who the elf guy is down there) and dropped of a dead person for him for extra man power, however i then foudn out he is prety crap only being able to weild a knife i found, which was very lame indeed but hey man power does help i guess. well i then did something really sneaky yet i thought was a bloody genious plan of mine, which you will love. i gave Imoen and my main character oil of speed because they both have bow weapons, and gave minsc the potion of giant strength making him some godlike being having 25 as his strength and killing anything with one blow. well i then took on the stupid git down there who decided he would try and challenge me, it must have been the fastest fights ever, i think minsc must have hit him or something because before a few seconds had past he was dead on teh floor, i didnt even see the sign o 1)him asking for mercy, lol. i then had a mass massacre of the lil critters he summoned for help - the fools were dead to oin seconds Imoen and main character made sure of that with the arrows and if they got close enough minsc had his 25 strength to flaunt lol. well now im out of the mine and in chapter 3 obviously. gone back to the inn in beregost. where some bounty guy is going to try and kill my already beatn team. so going to rest a bit to heal myself first before trying to kill him. well thats the update for you all.[/QUOTE]
Errr, question.
Highlight for spoiler.
1) Did you pick up Xan's personal weapon (his moonblade) in the chest?
2) Joseph's wife is in the southeastern end of the city, around the area that you found Minsc. If you need help, you can always check out the walkthrough on the main website (on the link that says GameBanshee by the Forum Rules link).
No offense intended, Demon_dave, but could you try to provide some more constructed grammar in your posts? I'm trying to read your posts, but it's all giving me some trouble.
Errr, question.
Highlight for spoiler.
1) Did you pick up Xan's personal weapon (his moonblade) in the chest?
2) Joseph's wife is in the southeastern end of the city, around the area that you found Minsc. If you need help, you can always check out the walkthrough on the main website (on the link that says GameBanshee by the Forum Rules link).
No offense intended, Demon_dave, but could you try to provide some more constructed grammar in your posts? I'm trying to read your posts, but it's all giving me some trouble.
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[QUOTE=Galuf the Dwarf]Errr, question.
Highlight for spoiler.
1) Did you pick up Xan's personal weapon (his moonblade) in the chest?
2) Joseph's wife is in the southeastern end of the city, around the area that you found Minsc. If you need help, you can always check out the walkthrough on the main website (on the link that says GameBanshee by the Forum Rules link).
No offense intended, Demon_dave, but could you try to provide some more constructed grammar in your posts? I'm trying to read your posts, but it's all giving me some trouble. [/QUOTE]
He'd better have picked up the moonblade! That thing kicks some serious butt. I just wish Xan had more HP so he could swing it without dying after one hit from an xvart. You do know, Dave, that you can reload instead of having everybody killed off all the time, right? That's why it automatically saves the game for you when you enter a new area. Which three characters did you lose on the way down the mines?
Highlight for spoiler.
1) Did you pick up Xan's personal weapon (his moonblade) in the chest?
2) Joseph's wife is in the southeastern end of the city, around the area that you found Minsc. If you need help, you can always check out the walkthrough on the main website (on the link that says GameBanshee by the Forum Rules link).
No offense intended, Demon_dave, but could you try to provide some more constructed grammar in your posts? I'm trying to read your posts, but it's all giving me some trouble.
[/QUOTE]He'd better have picked up the moonblade! That thing kicks some serious butt. I just wish Xan had more HP so he could swing it without dying after one hit from an xvart. You do know, Dave, that you can reload instead of having everybody killed off all the time, right? That's why it automatically saves the game for you when you enter a new area. Which three characters did you lose on the way down the mines?
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Post edited by Stilgar:
I saw it as an insult, not everyone has english as their native language, and not everyone has it as a schoolsubject.
Its ok to point someone on small grammer mistakes, or things like using blanklines between parts of the story, but not in this way, try to be polite, and when someone (Galuf) has already pointed it out, there is no need to do it again. Also try and do it via PM and not like this.
Post edited by TheAmazingOopah:
Um, I don't know excactly what I posted here, but it wasn't meant as an insult. The message was perhaps a bit too direct, making it unintentionally insulting.
I know that Galuf already pointed it out, but I don't see this post as needlessly repeating him; I was rather trying to make clear that I agree with him, that he isn't the only one who was a bit annoyed, therefore hoping that the issue would be taking more seriously.
I'm sorry, but I really don't know how insulting this message in the end was. Therefor, I can't excactly judge if I really should've sended a PM.
I saw it as an insult, not everyone has english as their native language, and not everyone has it as a schoolsubject.
Its ok to point someone on small grammer mistakes, or things like using blanklines between parts of the story, but not in this way, try to be polite, and when someone (Galuf) has already pointed it out, there is no need to do it again. Also try and do it via PM and not like this.
Post edited by TheAmazingOopah:
Um, I don't know excactly what I posted here, but it wasn't meant as an insult. The message was perhaps a bit too direct, making it unintentionally insulting.
I know that Galuf already pointed it out, but I don't see this post as needlessly repeating him; I was rather trying to make clear that I agree with him, that he isn't the only one who was a bit annoyed, therefore hoping that the issue would be taking more seriously.
I'm sorry, but I really don't know how insulting this message in the end was. Therefor, I can't excactly judge if I really should've sended a PM.
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right well i was talking to people on MSN. and to be honest i really didnt think people gave a crap if i misspelled a few things cos i was typing fast. and giving me a lecture on grammar hahahahaaaa!! if you wanted a well layed out essay all layed out in lil paragraphs then i think you need to get out a bit more. anywas enough of my rant (oh my god look i didnt you a capital letter after a full stop, oh god, the world is coming to an end now!!!) well i picked up the moonblade and went to hunt some half orces or whatever they are for Bjornin there are loads and somewhere along my journey Xan got killed and i picked up his cloak and everything but the moonblade!!!! ahhh ive searched the map but cant find it anywhere!! and its taken hours an hours and still no luck.
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Edited by TheAmazingOopah:
It's strange that Stilgar deleted my previous message, but left this message untouched, while this message definitely is in my opinion a message that one could find insulting. Well, what I wrote here isn't very important anymore, and I believe that the people to who it was indicating understand my point.
It would have been wiser if I had send my complain in a Personal Message, I somehow never thought about that. My apologies for any hard feelings.
The "neutral part" of the post is still available. For the fans:
Anyway, about the Moonblade. I'm not sure if you want to revive Xan. If not, then I wouldn't bother about the Moonblade, since he's the only one who can use it. However, if you do want to, I would suggest that you load an earlier game where he still lives, since it may be possible that you can't pick the sword up without Xan, though I'm not sure about that. Could also be a bug.
In general, I would just try to lose as least people as possible, since reviving is needlessly expensive and you have to pick up all the stuff that the dead character drops.
The Half-Orcs that you are looking for are in the same area where you meet Drizzt Do'Urden, a realy strong drow (= a certain blue elven race) who is fighting like twenty Gnolls, northwest of Nashkel (http://gamebanshee.com/baldursgate/locations/ar4200.php). They are in the northern part and are like four or five in numbers. If you think you've killed them all, just head to Beregost for your reward. If he doesn't give you any, simply reload or travel back.
It's strange that Stilgar deleted my previous message, but left this message untouched, while this message definitely is in my opinion a message that one could find insulting. Well, what I wrote here isn't very important anymore, and I believe that the people to who it was indicating understand my point.
It would have been wiser if I had send my complain in a Personal Message, I somehow never thought about that. My apologies for any hard feelings.
The "neutral part" of the post is still available. For the fans:
Anyway, about the Moonblade. I'm not sure if you want to revive Xan. If not, then I wouldn't bother about the Moonblade, since he's the only one who can use it. However, if you do want to, I would suggest that you load an earlier game where he still lives, since it may be possible that you can't pick the sword up without Xan, though I'm not sure about that. Could also be a bug.
In general, I would just try to lose as least people as possible, since reviving is needlessly expensive and you have to pick up all the stuff that the dead character drops.
The Half-Orcs that you are looking for are in the same area where you meet Drizzt Do'Urden, a realy strong drow (= a certain blue elven race) who is fighting like twenty Gnolls, northwest of Nashkel (http://gamebanshee.com/baldursgate/locations/ar4200.php). They are in the northern part and are like four or five in numbers. If you think you've killed them all, just head to Beregost for your reward. If he doesn't give you any, simply reload or travel back.
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Hello, thank you for the last post it has helped me a fair bit. Well first of all i would also like to appologise to the people i have annoyed for my very poor grammar and spelling. Well I will make more of an effort in future to re-read my posts before posting thm. Sorry again. Hopefully you will notice an improvement in my posts. thanks for reading.
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[QUOTE=Demon_dave]Hello, thank you for the last post it has helped me a fair bit. Well first of all i would also like to appologise to the people i have annoyed for my very poor grammar and spelling. Well I will make more of an effort in future to re-read my posts before posting thm. Sorry again. Hopefully you will notice an improvement in my posts. thanks for reading.[/QUOTE]
Yes, this is excactly what I meant. Definitely an improvement. Glad to help you out in the future, if you're having more difficulties with the game.
Yes, this is excactly what I meant. Definitely an improvement. Glad to help you out in the future, if you're having more difficulties with the game.
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