Ideas/Discussion for Fable 2 ***NO SPAM***

[Josh#1]

The real Josh

The person that sent the eariler message with my name was my personal sister and best friend, Keli!

Now about my original ideas for the game, Fable 2.

Fable was one of my most favorite games of all time. Seriously! I felt like I could do whatever I wanted. I had fun playing it! However, there was a couple of catches about the game itself.

First, the game was awfully short! What I wanted was maybe about way longer than 70 to 110 hours long, just like an rpg game( or have 55-70 story quests, 90 side quests, and lots of other quests.)

Second, many people wanted to have either a selection in which you either you become a male or female. What I was thinking was at the very beginning of the game, you can select your gender and you would have the main character of that gender you selected. That way, it would satisfy both guy gamers and some female gamers.

Third, while I walked around the towns and everything, I've been wondering... why can't we destroy buildings!? Think about it! If you were evil and you wanted to dominate the world, instead of the cheap way Fable did it when you earned the most powerful weapon yet everything seems normal, you would want to either force the villagers to give up their village, or... blow it up! And then force them to make them your slaves and build your own buildings like a bar, shop, or any building you want to build your own empire of Albion! Mwh ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!:devil: (I just wanted to do that. Sometimes, I usually have some evil ideas. Tee hee!)

Fourth, you know the good old Arena in which you battle against monsters for your life and to earn some nice good, cold, hard cash and many other prizes? Or I would like to say in the Albion world... gold. Well, here's my question... why can you enter only once during the entire game?! Why!? It would've been a lot better if you just can enter the Arena and earn some gold as many times as you want to. Come on, man! You have the whole world for yourself! You can at least enter to any building as much as you want, any competition as many times as you want, etc.

Fifth, more selection of weapons, armor, and new equipments, shields, and capes. I heard people talking about them while looking at the forums and figured that it would be awesome. I mean come on! You only have what just a few kinds like Bright User's Will Robe, Plate Armor (my favorite), etc. Why can't we have new armor like maybe when you first start off Guild training wooden armor, or like that one guy said Magic Armor, or this one I had an idea of... Dragon Armor! Another thing, if they have legendary weapons like the Harbinger, Skrom's Bow, and finally my personal favorite, the Sword of Aeons, why can't we have legendary armor or shields or capes? Speaking of weapons, I also heard that they want more weapon varieties, so I would have to go with them. Swords are my favorite, but I figured that trying out new weapons wouldn't be a bad idea. Like, if Whisper had a spear, how come we can't? Huh? If Thunder had a shield, how come we can't have shields during the game? That's just not right! Now, some people said they wanted to have dual weapons. I figured it would be cool, but there may be some catches about it. But I guess it's a game of whatever you want to do, so be my guest! Capes would look awesome on the hero. Seriously! Why couldn't they come up with it in the first place? Oh yeah, some special armor, weapons, shields, or capes may have special effects on you when you put them on. Another thing (sorry for making this part so long), why can't you sell what ever weapon, armor, and all that in shops? It's a free world, isn't it?

Sixth, lots and lots and lots of monsters to fight against. The monsters in Fable were pretty fun to kill, especially the White Balverine! But, you know, they need to add more monsters in it. Have all of the monsters from the first Fable come in and just add like 100 new types of monsters. It'll make things more challenging and more fun!!! Especially have dragons in it, please! I love dragons!!!!

Seventh, more, bigger, harder, and better bosses! The bosses in Fable were pretty good, but I think they can do a lot better than that if you know what I mean. I liked the Kraken boss in Fable. That should be one of the bosses in there. Also, have some new bosses in the game like 25 bosses or if you like have close to every story quest to have a boss to fight against.

Eighth, let me put this in simple words... can't the hero talk more than a couple words. Seriously! I think it would need a voice.

Nineth, instead of having like just a simple path that leads to a certain place, they need to try to make it like that one guy saids like Grand Theft Auto series. I mean you can have pathways to places, but they just need to be a little bigger to travel, you know? That way we would have more excitment in the game. Like maybe they should have the option in which you can camp anywhere you want when you want to rest for today. You just might need a tent. Hopefully, they do come up with the tent idea of what I just said.

Tenth, my cousin didn't like rpg games that much. But man thanks to me, he definitely loves playing Fable! He loves to destroy stuff and everything. So obiviously, that's his favorite rpg game so far. Anyway, my point is, one of his favorite things to do was fishing. I like the fishing game play and all. It's just... why can't the fish look more like Large mouth bass or catfish or trouts. Come on! They look like goldfish (That's what my cousin always said). Oh yeah, I figured if you can fish, why can't you hunt oridinary game like deer, elk, etc? I figured it would be a fun activity to do during the game while you're not doing anything.

Well, I guess that's it for today. I discuss the rest tommorrow! Until then, see yeah!

[shadowkon]

i agree with all the above

i would also like to be able to go online with it and i would like if you could custom weapons such as helmets and swords ect.

i would also like it if you could have children.It would be nice if you could actually meet these so called gods as well.and i would like it if you could custom make your name thatz all thx

[Arivanth]

What!

What!

[Droideka1179]

Here is what I think they should do for Fable 2
1. You should be able to obtain the guild, either by killing the guild master or inheriting it in some other way.
2. They could throw in some new clothing such as capes, and shields.
3. There should definatley be some expanding of the main quests (by at least fifty hours or so).
4. Another main point would be to be able to play the arena mulipule times.
5. There should be some new Heros to interact with.
6. They could easily find some new regions to create, with bigger towns.
7. Your charachter should be able to age more naturally, every ten hours you gain a year.
8. A big focus would be a neutral path in every quest, so there would be no good and evil.
9. They might be able to make creatures that you can ride on horses, dragons, etc.
10. They would have to make a spear, and not add weird new weapons like the pickhammer.

[Droideka1179]

Here is what I think they should do for Fable 2
1. You should be able to obtain the guild, either by killing the guild master or inheriting it in some other way.
2. They could throw in some new clothing such as capes, and shields.
3. There should definatley be some expanding of the main quests (by at least fifty hours or so).
4. Another main point would be to be able to play the arena mulipule times.
5. There should be some new Heros to interact with.
6. They could easily find some new regions to create, with bigger towns.
7. Your charachter should be able to age more naturally, every ten hours you gain a year.
8. A big focus would be a neutral path in every quest, so there would be no good and evil.
9. They might be able to make creatures that you can ride on horses, dragons, etc.
10. They would have to make a spear, and not add weird new weapons like the pickhammer.

[shadowkon]

Okay Capes are too far.I say no spears coz then youd have to change the way you fight.duel are okay but make it it has to be the same weapons coz if not youll ruin the game by making it too easy.

I think you should be able to create your own armour and mask but with a catch you cant change to something else.Oh and your own sword .To make your own armour and mask and ect. you could use other types of armour as templates or something like that.

and riding horses is just gay it would ruin the whole magical aspect of the game.It would be best if you did'nt change anything really except new quests and cutumize armour .it would be nice if you could be a girl though it would encourage girls to play thus increasing fans(and money).

It would be cool if after you completed the game you could become a teacher in the guild thus passing your knowledge on to the next generation.

It would be cool if you could go online in all platforms as well that way people could test each other's skills against one and other.

and it would be better if you could have a wider range of names as well.
OTHER THAN THAT ITS ALL GOOD.

[noloser]

1. Add names to all the NPCs would be great, can't regonise who is who all the time.

2. Of course longer game play with story and hero continue from fable 1. would be great if add more complexity in the game, like have two path equal to two different endings instead of one.

3. Add companion system, or at least have more interaction with your bodyguard. just make them more important and can influence the story or quest a bits.

4.There is losts of expression in fable, but many of them don't influence the game much; make those expression into more uses.

[Rigor Mortis]

this is what's bugging me.

remember when you get yourself a bordello and the fat lady wanted it to be a refugee for women? ugh i wish i could make it my hero's personal harem without the old woman and the fat lady of course. so if there will be any bordello again in the next fable please consider that, for those who don't want to do good deed but don't want to share the girls in the bordello with those filthy villagers.

just a thought..

[Gamer3000]

I know this game it extremly customizable already but I would really like to see more customizable options for making your own weapons and cloths.
same with your character (sense its going to be made for the 360, that should be a problem or for those console gamers)

I thought Fable TLC had a tattoo custom option in the end but i havent seen it. so that would be great as well.

ill edit more stuff in as they come to mind

[MonkeyShaker]

sum changes

i have 3 things which should be added to fable 2
1. you should be able to choose your sex
2. there should be more then 1 guild maybe 1 for each alignment or something
3. there should be more thing which you can use your experience with

[Gamer3000]

[QUOTE=MonkeyShaker]i have 3 things which should be added to fable 2
1. you should be able to choose your sex
2. there should be more then 1 guild maybe 1 for each alignment or something
3. there should be more thing which you can use your experience with[/QUOTE]


mybe trading in that extra exp for some Gil?

but i would also like to see my hero caring two swords in stead of one if i so choosed
or a quest where you have to retrive your sisters head if your at path of the dark side( if you even have a sister in the next fable, who knows )

[TLC>Keegan<TLC]

Ok Ok I Got It

0)ONLINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1) Be able to see/fight skorm , witch would be awsome
2) MAKE IT EASIER TO GET SKORMS BOW >:\
3) GeNdEr ChAnGe male/femanite lol
4) Skin color : black guy white guy spanise color guy u no that stuff
5) New SECRET ULTIMATE GONNA OWN U IN THE ASS MEGA weapon
6) More outfits
7) more weapons
8) Dual Weapons Dual Weapons
9) More spells
10) New killer trophies
11) New expressions like kik in the ass or bite arm
12) FLY LIKE AN ALBATROS IM AN ALBATROS
13) Beable to when u die come back as a zombie after all phiel potions gone
14) when u die able to talk to liek the guildmaster or scyth to be revived as human
15) able too choose species if u want to be a balverine a hobbe wait scratch hobbes their gay uh nymphssss and troll and stuff
16) more in game change type thing like u get bit by a balverine if u dont get and antidote soon u'll become a balverine.... kooool
17) Pets and stuff like also like summon u have sumtin followin u like a real live balverine instead of blue magic 1
18) EASIER TO BECOME GOOD include temple of avo but also make it easier to get good points like givin money to traders or people around town(donate type thing)
19) wehn ur evil ur horns get even biger so there like diablos when thel like curl around u no diablo from the game diablo yeah...
20) beable to throw things like rocks and sticks and SHARP POINTY OBJECTS
21) more hair styles and moostacheos and beards and tatoos
22) at tatoo parlours beable to create custom tatoos
23) oh dont forget online:mischief:
24) refering to my wing theory if ur like 100% good guy u get like angel wings and if ur 100% bad guy get like big vampire bat wings
25) Beable to become really big like when u got lvl 4 berserk it'll be like ITS TURBO TIME!!!!!
27) sick ass big worlds like the free roaming is extraordinarily HUMUGO!
28) and still have the option to get smashed out of ur face at the bars
29) and beable to stealth kill people like sam fisher SPLINTER CELL
30) have the expression to play dead and when ur playing dead have the option to jump up really fast and smack anything around u or too scare people in town if they get close
31) when holdin down the teleport button teleport not just to cullis gates but like and are like darkwood caves or sumtin like that
32) if in a sticky perdicament beable to like kill yourself to avoid getting a fine or if ur runnin from a herd of balverine
33) GET RID OF THE BELL WHEN U WALK INTO STORES god i hate that pick the lock sneek in the bell rings the store clerk wakes up runs to the guard guard come got no money then get smoked in the face by a sword i hate that bell so very very much

[lollop0]

changes

I know this was just discussed and many people made good points,(I especially liked the whole raise a kid thing ) but what about weapons or items you would add or remove? The ability to pick up dead enimies items and the like. Just try to think of more shallow things than, the NPC's need more dialoge."

[klicker]

changes

It would be very cool if you could get other skills as fighting, such as blacksmitting, cooking, crafting etc. and i dont like that there is almost nothing to do between quests:mischief:the heads should be looser. and more finaly I think extra ranged weapons wont hurt, like trowing knives, a blowpipe or a catapult for when you are a kid.

[Pat]

One point that hasn't been stressed enough is the lack of depth in the one category that made Fable unique: the alignment category.

Did anyone else find this statistic to be too gimmicky? I eat a couple crunchy chicks and now I'm a bad guy? Why does killing any hostile monster net good points? Evil badasses don't care about ANYONE except themselves, that includes bandits and undead, so why give us good points for that? The game was very linear and the "evil" decisions just felt tacky and added on for effect.

Secondly, the quests needed to be more varied to account for the alignment. EVERY quest should have the option of betrayal or evil decisions inside the quest that allows you to complete it the way you want. Someone else posted that there should actually be two guilds (one good, one evil). That idea is interesting and is what I'm getting at. To be evil in Fable, I had to break every barrel I saw, choose to kill random traders and villagers for no reason, and make the cookie-cutter evil choices on quests.

** SPOILER ALERT**

A good example of a more varied quest system is the final quest of The Lost Chapters, in which you can choose how to aquire the souls, either a noble way or an evil way. I say take this dynamic and apply it to all quests.

Miscellaneous Good Ideas:
I like the idea of having a servant who follows you around, perhaps an evil demon riding on your shoulder if you are evil and a cherub if you are good. Would add the possibility of more of that great Fable humour (imagine the demon encouraging you to slash burn and kill all the time a la Black and White 2). Your spouse should reflect your alignment as well, I'd love to see my wife slowly go over to the dark side and wear black clothes, get tatoos etc.. would be cool.


The end. ^_^

[grimsfire69]

Fable 2 things needed

Alright big fan of Fable and TLC *same game more stuff* Well first of all longer like good 23 hours longer. More gold quests and more side quest. Get even more freedom as in bowerstone no weapons say somthing like to bad and kill them all. Not much but some graphic upgrades would be nice. And more realistic flesh wounds. Like if you cut somebody you see the mark and its dripping blood that would be sweet. And need some more maps. And have like a war during the game where you go to towns and people are prepairing for war. And eventually you have to go fight that would be pretty sweet. And last thing a stronger boss. Jack is awsome and he is really evil and all that jazz. Then you go fight him and hes not final boss material he does send his people at you like most bosses but he should of been way harder or when you kill him he turns into somthing that would be a great upgrade

[Chicken Chaser]

Fable Two

OK, I have been reading your entry's and I just had a great idea.... I think in Fable 2 there should be more time as a kid, but more a teenager than a kid. You should have friends that you play with and go to school with. But one day you become an apprentice Hero and learn your skills from your mentor...then you go on to bigger and better quests with age. Although your mentor is killed and the main plot is based on your revenge.......

[Justin Time]

Fable TLC was awesome, but I think they should do these for Fable 2:

MMORG (I don't really care if they do this or not, but they need SOME form of multiplayer!)

Larger World!

More Real Estate, and the ability to make/destroy buildings and towns!

Boats! Everything from fishing boats, to transports, galleys, frigates, trading/cargo/merchant ships and battleships! Plus you can join the navy or be a pirate, and explore the seas! And you shouldn't necissarily be the navigator, you should be able to just enjoy the ride.....and cannons! YAY!

I would also like more armor:

Studded Leather
Scale Mail
Chain Mail (That actually looks like chain mail!)
Half-Plate
+ All the old armour
TRADER OUTFIT!!! XD

I also think that there should be magic and archery/sneaking restrictions in heavier armor, or else it makes no difference if you are in full plate, will-user robes, or the assassin's outfit.

And newer weapons:

Scimitar
Staff (These could be magical too!)

Cutlass (that actually looks like a cutlass!)

Pistol (No rifle though, except maybe as a weak legendary weapon. The pistol should be short aimed but strong.....but these should be extremely rare and expensive!)

Short Bow (Practically the same as a pistol except the rareness/expensive part)

Hand Crossbow (it would be like a cross between the pistol and shortbow! And yes, these did exist in medeival times!)

Duel Weilding (But there should be a major penalty so that it evens out with one handed light weapons and two handed heavy weapons)

Sheilds (for gods sake! They should make it that blocking with a weapon and not a sheild gives a chance for a failed block!)

Repeating Crossbow (As a legendary weapon)

More magic! (Will-Users should have more magic related quests with an easier task, like finding spellbooks in the underground frozen arcane libraries of the Northern Wastes)

I think that the rest is quite good, and I also agree with most of the other posters here! I think the augmentation system and weapon quality is fine though! I think that the expressions thing is fine, but I think there should be more expression things, and more types of guilds other then your standard training Heroe's Guild (i.e. Will-User's Guild, Archer's Guild, Warrior's Guild, Theives Guild)

And I think there should be many forks in the plot, so that you will learn/do things as a Good Archer that you wouldn't as a Neutral Will-User etc. etc.

Also:

Longer game! (duh!)

Enemies that progress in skill as you progress!

There! I am done for now.....

[BurningMan]

i had a really good suggestion (or so i thought) before, but i forgot it before i could get it down.

reading through i can see a lot of things that i would agree with.

i mean, i saw a render of an evil dude in the will users dark outfit holding a pair of knives or something. that would be absolute pwn. so yes, dual-wielding. and shields. and other varieties of weaponry (definitely more in the ranged combat area) would be ace too.

id like to see more emphasis on character classes. the skill experience pool says something about being a nimble ranger or a stealthy rogue or something. i want to see this being made into more than just a line of text that comes up on the personality screen.
yes, this would detriment a bit from fables uniqueness of being all these things at once, but it would make a world of difference. the stealth skill is hardly useful during a quest, so id like that to be implimented somewhere.

i concur on the alignment system being a little oversensitive. when youre playing an extremely righteous character and you need to heal in the middle of a battle, the last thing you want to see is that little chickens head in the corner of your screen.

gender picking i would also agree with. that said, if theyre going to make it ridiculously restrictive to play as a female, they might as well leave it out. i love fable for the sheer freedom it offers. being offered a half-assed selection of armour because you chose a character with different reproductive organs would be a mite disenchanting.

the games humour is an incredible attribute to the games atmosphere, so simply put, more of it is needed.

the gameplay does drag out over a decent period, but i would like to see it extended a fair bit. anything upwards of 24 hours would be great.

plenty of secrets/unlockable stuff! more legendary weapons to find! more demon doors to get past! more minigames (chicken kicking rocked)!


ok, hows this: take fable and expand on all the things that made it good, and rework all the things that didnt (im hard-pressed to think of any of them at the moment).

and for the love of avo, let us have weapons in bowerstone! theres only so many times you can beat lady grey before shed have to kark it.

[Justin Time]

Oh and one more thing...

Something to do with all that freaking experience you have left over after you've fully leveled up! I mean jeez, you should be able to convert it to other forms of experience, or maybe it should automatically go to general experience or something!