Best RPG

CM · Post by CM » Fri Jul 13, 2001 12:43 pm

Which is the best RPG created in your opinion?
And for personal info:
And is Planscape: torment worth buying?

Aegis · Post by **Aegis** » Fri Jul 13, 2001 1:02 pm

Planescape is worth buying. Just set aside a bit of time to play it.

In my opinion, the best RPG? Defienatly Final Fantasy 2. It was what started the RPG craze in North America (Console, and computer wie anyway) before that game, there were patches of RPG players, but once the game was released, the RPG development, and purchasing increased ten-fold.

fable · Post by **fable** » Fri Jul 13, 2001 11:10 pm

Check out the P:T area Buck's created, if you want some opinions about the game. Personally, I still think it may be the best CRPG. If not, it's one of my top three faves (the others being BG2 and Betrayal at Krondor).

One of the elements I like about BaK and P:T is the plot twists that occur during both. Neither writes down to the level of a 12-year-old. Neither assumes you have brains in your gluteus maximus, and testesterone in place of logic.

BaK was surprising in this way. Its puzzles still set a standard that other games have yet to meet, especially the riddle chests with letters to the answers on rotating tumblers. It was ahead of its time in many respects, and the poor sales of its successors had a lot to do with the business-as-usual approach that both Sierra and Dynamix used. One of the two successors was braindead, while the other was a typical AD&D-style CRPG that completely missed all the innovative stuff BaK did. Both failed.

Unfortunately, P:T failed--in a sense. It made money; just not enough, by Interplay's standards. The team that did it was a resource that couldn't be wasted, so they were put on another project rather than a P:T successor. I'm curious how TORN will turn out, however. We should find out towards the end of the year. My guess is that it might put NWN in the shade--but everybody's raving over NWN, while TORN is deliberately kept from the spotlight.

[ 07-14-2001: Message edited by: fable ]

Edwin · Post by **Edwin** » Sat Jul 14, 2001 1:30 am

Yes, P:T is a must have. Great story and character interaction; great spells (for a mage) and a nice world to explore.

About the best RPG....i don't have a great experience, but my vote goes for the BG serie.

CM · Post by CM » Sun Jul 15, 2001 3:01 am

ok so PT is worth buying.
Got that but what is Betrayal at Krondor?

Quark · Post by **Quark** » Sun Aug 12, 2001 8:46 am

P:T is definately worth it

I hardly have a 'best' RPG - just a ton that I love

-In no order-

1)Final Fantasy 3
2)Chrono Trigger
3)Diablo series
4)BG Series
5)P:T

Daniel · Post by **Daniel** » Mon Aug 13, 2001 11:11 am

1. Entire Baldur's Gate Saga (BG1, SOA, TOB, always the BEST!)
2. Neverwinter Nights (when, please tell me, *sob*)
3. Zelda (not played it very much times, but it has gained its legacy)

Aegis · Post by **Aegis** » Mon Aug 13, 2001 11:37 am

The Zelda games are pure gold. I own them all, and have completed them. I still own the first three, yet don't own the system to play them!

Mo · Post by Mo » Mon Aug 13, 2001 12:58 pm

P:T is worth buying, actually its the best cRPG ever made

, BG2 and ToB rule too...

fable · Post by **fable** » Mon Aug 13, 2001 3:34 pm

You know, if you can find 'em, there were two Origin Systems CRPGs made using the Ultima VI engine that were really fun. One was set on a Jules Vernian trip to Mars, around 1900, while the other was a 1930's pulp fiction style crash in a lost section of jungle inhabited by warring tribes and dinosaurs. They were very cleverly done, with quite a bit of non-linear flexibility, and some pretty ingenious puzzles. One was was called Martian Dreams--do you fancy speaking with Twain, Freud, Tesla and Lenin? They're characters in it.

Unfortunately, neither product did very well, and the "Worlds of Adventure" concept died. But then, Garriott eventually abandoned RPGs for action gaming, too: a shame, since he had so much to contribute. In some ways, BG2 is an ironic fulfillment of the kind of thing Garriott wanted around the time of Ultima VI, VII and VIIb: an extremely interactive, isometric universe that let you determine your course of advancement.

Tamerlane · Post by **Tamerlane** » Fri Aug 24, 2001 10:06 pm

Best RPG in my opinion would be either Squaresofts Chrono Trigger or Nintendo's Legend Of Zelda, both on the SNES.

Worldfrog · Post by **Worldfrog** » Mon Aug 27, 2001 7:21 am

Best RPG's:

The BG series
Ultima (particularly IV)
and I loved Betrayal at Krondor. One of my favorite things about that game was the way your abilities were improved. Want to be a better singer/bard? Practice with your instrument for a while. IMO, a much better system than the generic "level up, gain abilities" idea. Of course, it does lead to incessant haggling over goods, etc.

VoodooDali · Post by **VoodooDali** » Mon Aug 27, 2001 3:27 pm

Don't forget Fallout 1 & 2. They're both great. I loved PS:T, esp. since they used an atypical D&D world--no elves or dwarves in that one. Love all of BG up to ToB--everything except IWD. Has anyone here played Arcanum yet? Worth buying?

Tamerlane · Post by **Tamerlane** » Mon Aug 27, 2001 11:28 pm

Only the demo

Being in Australia means that we have to wait a little bit longer for its release.

Aegis · Post by **Aegis** » Tue Aug 28, 2001 10:28 pm

There are too many good RPG's out there to really define one as the "best". If I had to though, my vote would actually go to Baldurs Gate. I just bought and played through it for the first time, and loved it! Awesome story, great graphics (For it's time), some interesting characters. It was amazing!

Rob-hin · Post by **Rob-hin** » Wed Aug 29, 2001 2:50 am

Amen to that, to me, never has there been a game with a story like BG. I mean BG 1 then 2 the ToB...loving it.

Plus they alomst singlehandedly revived the Ad&d in gaming. (at least in my point of view)

nael · Post by **nael** » Wed Aug 29, 2001 10:53 am

i've been playing RPG for a logn time on computers...somre great classic ones were dungeon master, all of the dragon lance ones like champions of krynn, and the original forgotten realms ones with pools of radiance and such (not that new one). the graphics and game play were pretty crappy if you played with an IBM PC. their graphics and sound capabilities were so WAY behind machines liek the Amiga that it took IBM roughly 10 years to catch up. too bad amiga never caught on, our gaming experience would be so much farther along then it is now.

but for current games...definitely the BG series and i think planescape torment is the most original game i have ever played. so much interaction, it had a eerie dark feel to the whole thing, i loved how your alignment constantly changed due to what you did in the game, it's a beautiful game, well worth playing.

Aegis · Post by **Aegis** » Fri Aug 31, 2001 2:17 am

Sadly, I lost interest in Torment. I made it half way through the game, and quit.

Overkill · Post by **Overkill** » Tue Sep 11, 2001 1:26 pm

i Dont know if its the "best" but it was the first and funest so i have to say Fallout 2,the story kinda suck but i love the environments and weapons and the death animations....,the first time i sherded someone whit my minigun...the proudest moment of my life.