*nods* However, as I mentioned, once the woman steps into public, the intent is no longer relevant. I wasn't mentioning that as my point of view, but as what happens. If you go out into public, regardless of what your original intent is, everything on display about you is now a public issue. Your personal thoughts are not, as you have them inside your head. If you blurt them out in public however, you have now included everyone within hearing range, yes? People will react, as humans are social creatures. Just as if you show your breasts in a low cut shirt, people do not have the right to touch you, but they will react. It is being put out in public view.dragon wench wrote:But just because such women dress in that way does not, I repeat, not always or necesssarily imply that they want to be looked at. Let's remember, as you yourself have implied, all too often boys are raised by their fathers, and society more generally, to believe that women put themselves on display expressly for their viewing pleasure.
And this is the exact same attitude that frequently leads to the defense of "She wanted it," in rape trials.
I know damn well if I walk outside in a speedo, people will stare. So I do not do so. Yet, I see girls wandering around in bikinis when it isn't even hot enough out to warrent needing such skimpy outfits for comfort purposes, nor is it near water for swimming. This is clearly some sort of action which the girl is trying to attract attention to her body or show off in some manner don't you think? Whether it is to show up other girls or draw attention from boys isn't clear unless someone paints a sign on the girl. Other girls get jealous, and boys get horny. It doesn't matter what the intent was, the reactions occur just the same. Even if the girl says "Oh, I'm doing it to make boys drool", other girls will still end up feeling a variety of possible emotions like jealousy, insecurity or anger at the situation. Just as if the girl was doing so simply to instill those emotions and couldn't care less about what the boys thought.
The stimuli is there, and reactions will occur, intent is irrevelant in causing those reactions. It does matter in how the person acts on the initial reactions they have however. Which leads to your concern, that of girls being raped and hurt and the like. Those are extreme situations though, just as a guy drinking himself to death in a drinking contest. Or a person owning a car and people being run over by those who drive cars. It's not the rule, it's the extreme, uncommon event. Natural instinct assures that if a person shows off their bodies in a seductive manner another person witnessing it will have a reaction to it. The impulses and reactions involved in stimuli involving scent and visuals when dealing with such things are far different than those when dealing with your example of men drinking themselves stupid, wouldn't you agree?