What do you do for reputation loss?

probe53 · Post by **probe53** » Sun Jan 07, 2007 6:03 pm

Are there other ways to lose reputation instead stealing or killing? What do you do for a bit of reputation loss? (seems all quest do is up reputation.. yet to do one that lowers it)

anarchistica · Post by **anarchistica** » Sun Jan 07, 2007 6:28 pm

Changing into the Slayer costs 2 Reputation, as does taking Viconia in your party (you get them back if you kick her out).

probe53 · Post by **probe53** » Sun Jan 07, 2007 6:34 pm

i only remember slayers change in TOB... which i used character creation to quick test characters... but its not in SOA yet so i wont have that option

so is that it? is there no other way?

how long do npc get mad at you for stealing their items? (or failing to rather)

fable · Post by **fable** » Sun Jan 07, 2007 7:06 pm

For reputation loss, the easiest way of dealing with matters is to tithe in temples.

probe53 · Post by **probe53** » Sun Jan 07, 2007 7:14 pm

your saying i can LOSE reputation in temples?

fable · Post by **fable** » Sun Jan 07, 2007 8:01 pm

probe53 wrote:your saying i can LOSE reputation in temples?

Um, no. I just said the opposite. Tithe in temples, in order to deal with reputation loss.

anarchistica · Post by **anarchistica** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 5:35 am

probe53 wrote:i only remember slayers change in TOB... which i used character creation to quick test characters... but its not in SOA yet so i wont have that option

so is that it? is there no other way?

how long do npc get mad at you for stealing their items? (or failing to rather)

Slayer change:

Spoiler

happens in the Asylum

, which is in SOA.

Slayer change, Viconia, killing, stealing... plus the trials in Hell. If you have the standard version, choosing an Evil path costs you 1 reputation. This is gone when using the Revised Hell Trials.

NPCs stay hostile forever.

Celacena · Post by **Celacena** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 5:53 am

the most irritating way to lose rep is to accidentally kill bystanders - I have actually gone down to zero when I unleashed a creature and it fireballed a few civilians.

being caught stealing
having viconia in the party
killing non-combatants

I don't think that there are many dialogue options.

you could always take off the ring of human influence and let your CHA3 shime through...

Coot · Post by **Coot** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 1:49 pm

Probe53, if you can't turn into the Slayer yet, the only way to permanently lower your rep, besides killing, is to cheat. You might want to download a game editor like [url="http://www.mud-master.com/shadowkeeper"]Shadowkeeper[/url].

anarchistica · Post by **anarchistica** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 5:21 pm

If you allow Anomen to take revenge this will reduce your Reputation by 2 as well.

Pellinore · Post by **Pellinore** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 7:41 pm

I was looking to lower my rep a bit as people were starting to complain so I thought I would backstab that little runt Brus but the little brat leaves to quickly...

Celacena · Post by **Celacena** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 9:00 am

I have a rep of 19 anf Jaheira is always moaning - "we must strive to achieve balance" - some quests which should lower rep - such as ambushing Quilque with no warning don't. there are no penalties for cowardice or greed or killing non-good NPCs it seems, yet often a course of action is dishonourable.

fable · Post by **fable** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 9:41 am

Celacena wrote:I have a rep of 19 anf Jaheira is always moaning - "we must strive to achieve balance" - some quests which should lower rep - such as ambushing Quilque with no warning don't. there are no penalties for cowardice or greed or killing non-good NPCs it seems, yet often a course of action is dishonourable.

About standard for good/evil implementation in a computerized RPG, wouldn't you agree?

Then along comes the jaunt through hell, and suddenly your character's morals are being didactically tested. As though your previous actions weren't enough--except that in RPGs, they aren't.

As for Jaheira, I'm afraid the neutrals in the game will always moan about the necessity for balance when you go around being nice by solving quests, or being bad by killing non-bad people.

But I think we're coming to the end of this thread. We've explained seemingly all instances that can cause reputation drop, and that was Probe53's goal.