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A feature that I, personally find very annoying.

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Starting chracter Shakil Tutan Light side master Scout/Jedi counselor:
Str 5
Dex 1.5
Con 0
Int 0
Wis 4
Cha 3
Ending character (with master valour and equipment on)
Str 2
Dex 8
Con 1.5
Int 1.5
Wis 14
Cha 7

Equipment:
Circlet of Saresh (+5 wis)
Advanced Stabilizer Gloves (+3 dex, +5 blaster deflection)
Dominator Gauntlets (+5 strength)
Advanced Alacrity Implant (dex 5)
Brejiks arm band (5/- vs Slashing)
Star Forge Robe (Wis +5, saves all +2, Def +5)
Adrenaline Stimulator (+ 2 Dex, 4 all saves)

Soon after planning my perfect counselor character, with his 50 DC I realized that I needed to think feat-wise as well. So seeing as I only had 9 feats to grant my character I was in trapped in a hole. Which class to start with (i'm going for a class ?2/188counselor) and which feats to grant him. Well, after much thought, I decided that I did not wish to use the scoundrel class as my primary one, but the scout class instead. Why you ask, well its because I realized that, since I wanted the implants in the game and also the jedi defence feat I would have only 4 feats left which I would use on empathy and conditioning or improved critical hits(since I could not do anything else with that 1 left feat). In total 9 feats for my 2/18 scoundrel counselor. But I also realized that, while empathy would have been a viable choice for a feat on my prevous chaaracters (which were all evil) it would not be useful at all now, since my new character would be a light jedi and also would have a very high charisma level. I mean at the end of the game my charisma bonus would be 7 (with master valour +5 and the LS mastery bonus of +3 charisma) and the wisdom mofifier would be 14 (highest possible in the game). Giving me an overall 41 DC to force powers. Plus the 4 from master jedi sence and 5 being the natural DC for a spell (i think its this way) I would have 50 DC. I believe that this is actually the max possible DC or something, migh give me an additional attribute like unless the opponent rolls a 20 he cannot save no matter what his wisdom bonus is.
Anyway, back to my point, I realized that there was no need for empathy as I would probuably be able to persuade anyone that I wanted to act one my Light-Side character's role. Then, eyes quickly passing over the Soldier class I noticed the Scout. I looked at his feats and it was magical, I saw that I could actually see a good character forming, one who could attack with the ligthsaber as well. The scout comes with an implant feat and a flurry feat, at creation. So I decided to use this class, and with a heavy heart decided to drop scoundrel's luck and sneak attack. So basically I was planning for my end character to spend the nine feats on: 2 master jedi defence, 3 two weapon figthing , 2 flurry, 2 implant. It felt impossible to me that I actually made a character that worked with all this. Cause I didn't want tro go half way with any feat path, and this way, I THOUGHT that I could fully accomplish these four paths. However I was wrong, since trying to implement the idea I realized at the end of the Endar Spire, when I had to level up, that this dream would not occure. It turned out that the I could not use the feats that I wanted to because of, 1 the jedi defence path was blocked, and 2 the other 3 feat paths were all at one level already, and the second level I could not reach for any of them because I had to be atleast level 4. So this makes me angry, and is why I am writting so much. Does anyone know any other feat combinations that would work for my super character. Don't worry I can get past taris easilly, because i've actually tried it with a character who only had 0.5 bonus to dexterity and the rest was 0 except for wisdom and charisma (5 wis, 4.5 charisma and the other way round. I've played 2 games, both dark side so far. But wisdom and charisma are almost useless on taris). I even killed Bendak Starkiller, after a series of saves, loads, saves, saves, saves, loads, saves (you get it) and grenades, sonic, the concussion, then run, or something along those lines. Ofcourse, after taris one really feels all powerful. I am even planning to give my ligth side character dark side powers like death field and Force storm, because I have so much FP (14 wisdom) and also because I've never actually finnished Kotor, I've never actually flied to Kashyk or the Unknown Planet. And I've never gotten Force storm or death field, although I did get kill at both of my previous games, Its so easy to win with it, I mean, with me having a high DC anyway, nothing resisted it. This game gets soooo easy :) I hope malak is harder. This time I hope to finnish the game, hopefully.

Also if anyone can offer any variations to my character, whcih I haven't actually started playing yet. That would be great. But remember that I want my character to have maximum Blaster Dflection possible and Also the perfect DC. Except for that. Please give me advise. My Force power plan was something involving the necesary, Master Valour, Master Speed (so the game doesn't take me 40 hours) and Heal because I want my perfect wisdom+charisma to affect something except DC and Heal actually heals by 10+my charisma and wisdom modifiers (I think). If someone can suggest any other force powers that are affected by wisdom and charisma, please do tell. If there are any more. Also I am planning on giving my Jedi Master, Shakil Tutan the affectmind force power, since he is a good character, it shall be useful. But is it needed to get Dominate Mind, I mean, what does it do better?
My sabers shall be mantle of the force with Upari and jenruax, Heart of the Guardian with Jenruax and Solari. Giving me +24 Blaster Deflection from both sabers. That's why I chose to use two sabers. So how much Blaster Deflection is that in total, probuably as much as possible. It'll be cool just to send this guy into battle with people shoting at him. He'll just kill them all by doind nothing than just waving around his saber to reflect the bolts back at the enemies. Should look cool. Ok, well that's it.
Now its time to ask my brother about how the weather was today, since I did actually miss the whole day just by typing this
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Post by Xandax »

Well - I can't really give much advice currently, but I'm very interested in why you are so hoocked on maxing Blaster Deflection?

I know it is fun to try different character concepts (I do myself), but is there any reason besides the "challenge" of it?
I'm interested... :)

Maybe if I find out why - I could give some advice from my point of view to your character.
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Well, the character is a Force Weilder, primarily. So I guess, since I shall be trying to stay far from the enemy, I should be most afraid of ranged attacks. So, because I don't know how much blaster deflection is too much, I figure that the best is to get the best possible. Plus it should be pretty cool when, as I said, no one shall be able to hit me and I shal end up killing enemies without attacking at all. Just my opinion, might be wrong, maybe all this blaster deflection is too much. How does the system work anyway, I don't know.
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Well - from my experience playing SW:KotoR - then blaster deflection is generally nice, but I see very little reason to try and max it or even give it much effort.
My characters usually deflect a good amount of blaster shots withouth doing much in that department, and once you get nearer to the end of the game, the amount of enemies with blasters dwindle.
The game is very meele orientated.

I'd personally rather try and increase defence in the manner of especially AC and saveing throws instead - if you wish to play a very defensive character.
And there Scoundrel with Scoundrels luck and dueling feats could go a good long way.


Anyways - that is my opinnion. If you wish to play a maxing Deflection character - then you surly should do so :)
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Lol, thanks.
So why is it that all the strategy guides constantly say that you should get all 3 of the Jedi Defence feats and you know, even when you ask the computer to decide the feat for you it almost always advises me to get Blaster Deflection feat.
Also, I don't want my character to deflect some of the time, but always. I mean if that's the case with a character with mearly HIGH, Blaster Deflection, then ok, I suppose then I shall have to rconsider my character, but then I shall have to think even more to get the best possible character with the limited possibilities left with a DC 50 Jedi Counselor. But, I guess this is good news, I guess, since I shall have extra feats to spend. Ow, I'll stick to the Blaster Deflection character anyway, otherwise I'll have to do a ton of extra thinking, which I don't want to do especially. Unless someone else does the thinking for me, like which feats and ligthsaber combination to go for.
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[QUOTE=ajdaha]Lol, thanks.
So why is it that all the strategy guides constantly say that you should get all 3 of the Jedi Defence feats and you know, even when you ask the computer to decide the feat for you it almost always advises me to get Blaster Deflection feat. <snip>
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I have no idea as to why strategy guides says so - that is for the people who write them.
But I've never had problems beating the game without going high blaster deflection.
While I in some situations find (would find) it usefull, I think it - especially when thinking of the latter parts of the game - is less usefull then many other things.
There is no need to deflect blasters if they can't hit you anyway right? :D
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But it would be cool to try anyway, don't you think. Just imagining my character in the middle of a figth with 5 people shooting at me. Then none of them hit me and i kill them by just reflecting the shots back at them.
Han Solo, eat your heart out.
PS: Cheers on the quick posts!
Also, could you suggest anything better for my character.I don't want him to generalize. I would like him to be specific in a way. So if going for critical hit feats then also I would like the critical hit lightsaber combinations.
So if you have any other ideas for my character in terms of feat, force power and weapons, please, do advise me.
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I rarely pre-plan my characters that much - and almost never for others.
Half the fun for me is to play the game and develop characters in-game. :cool:
Only in MMORPGs do I plan something ahead of the game.
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Oh ok. But seeing as I told you that I have never finnished Kotor, I hope you realize that I am really slow at playing a game. And it takes me eons to get past places like Taris. So I cannot afford to waste time like this. I need to pre-plan my character. And to be honest, I can't really do the planning as I go along, because, ... well because I have a secret.............................................I have Kotor on XBOX. Ahhhhh.
And am most likely getting it for the PC instead. That's why I'm planning my character like this. I cannot get the items like Circlet of Sareesh and The saber crystals on the Xbox. Also Lside mastery doesn't grant a bonus on the Xbox and the some items are not in the Xbox version. Some that I need for my character. I just cannot play Kotor when I realize that it is possible to be so much better, if only I have the PC version. I'll most likely get it next week, hopefully it shall work on my PC. Sorry for not saying that at the start. But technically, I don't think I lied. Did I? :)
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Ok, ignore me now?
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Just get xbox live, save you the bother of having two of the same games for differnet systems
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[QUOTE=ajdaha]Also Lside mastery doesn't grant a bonus on the Xbox[/QUOTE]Seriously?
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Yeah, unfortunately. Xbox live will not solve my problem. Infact I've actually given up on this. I'll just get and play Kotor 2. If anyone else tries this build on the PC, good on ya. Should be cool. I hope someone does!!
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[QUOTE=ajdaha]Yeah, unfortunately. Xbox live will not solve my problem. Infact I've actually given up on this. I'll just get and play Kotor 2. If anyone else tries this build on the PC, good on ya. Should be cool. I hope someone does!![/QUOTE]

from reports kotor 2 does fix the bug of not getting lightside/darkside mastery bonuses...

blaster deflection...you're actually better off getting that as a guardian, since str/dex bonuses add to the deflection roll...so a high dex guardian with improved jedi defense is actually going to be better at it...

also, anything over 10 points above making the dc roll means you deflect right back at the guy who shot you...

a high dex guardian, with two weapon, improved jedi defense or better and two deflecting lightsabres can actually kill enemies without ever getting to melee range... :D
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[QUOTE=UserUnfriendly]<snip>
a high dex guardian, with two weapon, improved jedi defense or better and two deflecting lightsabres can actually kill enemies without ever getting to melee range... :D [/QUOTE]

Yes - but the amount of meele surpases ranged. And if you have a party (or yourself) will close in on the blasterwielding people, it will make the enemy go into meele as well.
Blaster deflection is a wasted path in my view - if done for anything other then roleplaying/challenge.
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And any way why wouldn't you want to get into melee range, those lightsabers spining wildly about is fantastic. I can see the fun of deflection but not really my cup of tea. Still want to get the xbox live just for the extra sections, to see how they improve the game.
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If you wish, but as I say. You are not going to get to experience the really cool items unless you get the PC game. Especially the circlet of Sareesh. Also, It would be, "for the prupose of role-playing" I mean this guy would be overly powerfl anyway with the super amount of FP, so what is the point in trying to make him a good fighter, when I could just make him a really cool force-user with high blaster deflection.
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Ummm you can get the circlet with the xbox live thingy! Along with all the other extras they put on it so that people would have to pay more.
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What, uhh, seriously?
You aren't joking? Ok, sooo, what can't you get with the Xbox live updates that you can with the PC?
And, are you sure?
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Yeah I'm pretty sure, I don't have xbox live set up so couldn't be 100% certain seeing as I'm too lazy to get it but yeah I think you get all the extras that the pc can get
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