Diablo III Forum Activity, Level Cap Announced

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Written by BuckGB on September 23rd, 2010

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We've been working with a level cap that's quite a bit different. It was something I had alluded to a while back but I think it's probably worth discussing sooner rather than later.

So, we're working with a lower level cap for a myriad of reasons but really the main point that they're more or less all linked to is that we came to the conclusion that a cap of 99 exists for the sake of itself. Meaning that it's a really high number despite all sorts of good things like meaningful player/skill/power pacing, item distribution, balance, etc. It's sort of this long term goal that really didn't matter, almost an Achievement without the flashy graphics or *bwong* sound. You didn't need to reach 99 to do anything, in almost all ways the game stopped somewhere in the 80's (for a lot of people a lot lower), but by stretching the player out over an additional 20 or so levels to 99 it created all sorts of issues we were having problems justifying forcing the game in to. So we're working with a level cap of 60 at the moment.

This is the point where some of you scream "60!? That's like original World of Warcraft!" And then the rest of you /facepalm and say "60!? Couldn't you pick any other number? Now everyone is going to compare it to World of Warcraft!"

The 60 level cap we're working with came from a lot of time and thinking about our content and how we want the experience to feel at every level. It so happens that it works for us really well.

Of course it all comes down to an XP curve. We could, for instance, say the level cap in Diablo III is 60 and then pace that curve and gain out over what we estimate it took someone to reach 99 in Diablo II. Of course we wouldn't do that but it should help illustrate that the time from 1-60 in Diablo II does not equal the amount of time it will take to reach 60 in Diablo III. 60 levels versus 99 levels doesn't mean less content or less powerful characters, etc. These aren't uniform levels of power that move from game to game. And in fact we are pushing a longer game than Diablo II and I'd argue our characters feel way more powerful. Ok, that out of the way, moving on!

The leveling experience is always going to stop somewhere because the real game is the item hunt. So, instead of letting it drag out to a less meaningful 80 or so levels like most people saw in Diablo II we have 60 levels of awesome; at every level you'll get a meaningful and noticeable increase in power. It has a ton of other benefits and fixes a lot of problems a higher cap causes, but I'll take pause.

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You're right, we could have 120 levels and you only get a skill point every other level, which we think feels crappy.

We don't care if other games use 60. Diablo 1 used 50. D&D uses 20. WotLK is 80. Fallout 3 uses 30 (with an expansion). At what number are we not overlapping with another game, and at what point do we stop making decisions just so people don't compare us with other titles, and at what point do we stop caring and start making decisions that make a better game?

It's possible that later on we find out that we need to go to 70 to fit all the content we're producing. Or lower it to 50 to compact skill power. We're choosing the level cap based on what fits the game, and that could change, but at no point are we going to look at another game and purposefully do something different for the sake of being different, or do something exactly the same for the sake of nostalgia.

It's staggering really, even to me still. Those are all unique in their visuals too, which is important to note. Sure some of them may be simple color shifts but most of them are unique mechanics with completely unique visual effects. It's crazy. Big up to our effects guys.

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Have you played Diablo II 1.13? We added a respec system. See how that works and you'll get an idea of how we think we'd like it to work for Diablo III.

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We don't plan to have full resets, they'll be per-skill (if it goes as currently planned), and we don't plan to allow them to be easily obtained. Probably similar to the Diablo II 1.13 respecs a couple will be easy, or granted through quest rewards, but the idea is to involve some amount of rarity, cost, something. What that balance will shake out to mean... I don't know.

I don't know I think those kinds of things can be fun, but maybe as more specific bonuses for celebrations. I think it would be cooler though if for like, say an anniversary weekend, monsters are tougher or drop better loot or something. Sounds cool to me, no plans I'm aware of that would support such functionality but you never know.

I think it's fun to have a reason to log in maybe even if you haven't played in a while. It's a good way to keep interest up without having to patch in new content or something.

One StarCraft II license per Battle.net account. If you're banned and want to post again you'd need to open a new Battle.net account and buy a new copy of StarCraft II to post with a new character.

Diablo III peoples should be prepared for the same. >:)

I can't confirm why you were banned but I would have recommended you email in, as you did, as I'm not sure that ban seems well placed with the info you provided. Assuming the info you provided is complete. Of course.

You can solo the entire game.

If you're in a multiplayer game you will need to stick together or you will die.

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