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aha, that could explain it. I will go review my patch version and see if I mistakenly dl'd the wrong patch. I am quite confident that TOB is not installed. As a matter of fact, SOA is currently the only program on my machine that didn't come on the same disc as the OS.

That was hilarious!!!! I'm not a big RPG fan myself; however, I feel that BioWare has done a great job of bringing the RPG to the PC, and am playing this mainly because of its great gameplay. But not being of a deep RPG background allows me to see why that is so funny.

The line about showering ...

Kopy - It's the big swirly ball... It was the silver disc before.

I had to completely reinstall after a HDD crash. I had patched up to the current version as of April, which I assume hasn't changed. I have TOB though it isn't installed, and the only patch I have is the latest official release - but I thought it was the same one that I was patched up to before.

I was in Suldanesslar when my pc crashed the first time thru SOA so I'm just trying to speed along now. So, I threw the Cloak of mirroring on Korgan, and I sent him delving into the beholder dungeon with the rest of the party waiting by the entrance.

I actually discovered this the first time by ...

Thx Dave,

Or should I call you HighLord.... I'm in the right area according to the walkthrough anyway (I think... Uh-oh... Maybe not... Yeah that's the right spot).

Thanks to those who helped with my save game questions. This should be my last question.

"Note - According to emails we've received, you can find the Sling of Arvoreen here as well. Search the walls for a niche around location x=1214, y=766"

How do you find the location coordinates on the map? I ...

Thx. That was what I had concluded, but I wanted to post the question to a knowledgable source before trying it. I didn't want to post my theory and have some lamebrain come along and just agree with me because it sounded good. I appreciate the help.

I need to rebuild my hard drive image. It has become very unstable. I would like to reformat and start over, but I am afraid of what will become of my saved games. I do not know the best way to back these up. I'm afraid that I may miss something and corrupt my saves. Has anyone transferred saves ...