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Waverly · Post by **Waverly** » Sun Mar 18, 2001 11:01 am

Originally posted by Chrissy:
When gravity is stronger time passes slower... So time has something to do with energy? I think this is all very interesting but a little over my head

That is correct. In theory you could time travel by changing the mass of an object rapidly, say a humongous water balloon. However gravity is a force and not energy itself.

Flagg · Post by **Flagg** » Sun Mar 18, 2001 11:02 am

@Ubik, destruction just has a negative connotation. Why would one phase of the sun be better or worse than the other? That is all that I was trying to say.

Xandax · Post by **Xandax** » Sun Mar 18, 2001 11:04 am

Originally posted by Chrissy:
Xandax: I think it could be possible to travel forward in time (aging slower) but how would you go back? By taking lightspeed into negative? I don't understand that...
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well I don't have an answer - but I find it fascinating to think about.
I mean a Danish scientist recently slowed a light particle significantly down - whereby slowing the speed of light. Maybe one day - we find a way to stop or maybe even reverse a light particle.

Flagg · Post by **Flagg** » Sun Mar 18, 2001 11:05 am

Originally posted by Waverly:
That is correct. In theory you could time travel by changing the mass of an object rapidly, say a humongous water balloon. However gravity is a force and not energy itself.

Aren't you changing the energy when you are changing the mass. Doesn't force create energy???

New question: Can energy be created?

Waverly · Post by **Waverly** » Sun Mar 18, 2001 11:05 am

Originally posted by Flagg:
@Ubik, destruction just has a negative connotation. Why would one phase of the sun be better or worse than the other? That is all that I was trying to say.

Good point. It's not destuction..it's an increase in entropy. As such, it is favored to happen by definition.

EDIT: Forces allow energy, yup. and yes energy can be created: e=mc^2

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Darkpoet · Post by **Darkpoet** » Sun Mar 18, 2001 11:06 am

What puzzles me about the big bang theory is. How is the earth able to sustain life, and be a living planet??

Ubik · Post by **Ubik** » Sun Mar 18, 2001 11:06 am

Originally posted by Flagg:
@Ubik, destruction just has a negative connotation. Why would one phase of the sun be better or worse than the other? That is all that I was trying to say.

Because we are talking about the death of a star here. This is one of the greatest events in the mega-world and it is not something that has to do with the one who watches it (let's not get into too philosophical questions as "if there was nothing to watch it happening, would it actually happen?").
A star has a life span. First it lives (using its nuclear fuel) and then it dies off. It's just that a star's death can really be the most fascinating sight this universe can offer (a super novae explosion)

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Ubik
Elder God B.P. Pervert

Flagg · Post by **Flagg** » Sun Mar 18, 2001 11:08 am

Originally posted by Waverly:

EDIT: Forces allow energy, yup. and yes energy can be created: e=mc^2

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Isn't that just the transformation of energy? That is not really creating energy is it?

Xandax · Post by **Xandax** » Sun Mar 18, 2001 11:09 am

Originally posted by Flagg:
Aren't you changing the energy when you are changing the mass. Doesn't force create energy???

New question: Can energy be created?

You can convert force/mass into energy - but It isen't possible to create energy without the use of input.
E = 0 (energy without any input)

Waverly · Post by **Waverly** » Sun Mar 18, 2001 11:10 am

Originally posted by Flagg:
Isn't that just the transformation of energy? That is not really creating energy is it?

What do you mean??? m is mass (no energy) and C is the speed of light (no energy) yet the turn into e (energy) on the other side of the equation. This is converting mass to energy and vice versa.

Ubik · Post by **Ubik** » Sun Mar 18, 2001 11:10 am

This has been a hell of a conversation here but I got to go... see ya folks tommorow

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Ubik
Elder God B.P. Pervert

Waverly · Post by **Waverly** » Sun Mar 18, 2001 11:11 am

Bye Ubik

Xandax · Post by **Xandax** » Sun Mar 18, 2001 11:11 am

Originally posted by Waverly:
What do you mean??? m is mass (no energy) and C is the speed of light (no energy) yet the turn into e (energy) on the other side of the equation. This is converting mass to energy and vice versa.

It is converting into energy - not the creating of energy

See ya - Ubik

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Darkpoet · Post by **Darkpoet** » Sun Mar 18, 2001 11:12 am

Bye Ubik

Minerva · Post by **Minerva** » Sun Mar 18, 2001 11:15 am

See you later, Ubik.

Waverly · Post by **Waverly** » Sun Mar 18, 2001 11:15 am

@Xandax: right....you mean you wanted energy for nothing?

I have a perpetual motion machine in my basement....

Xandax · Post by **Xandax** » Sun Mar 18, 2001 11:17 am

Originally posted by Waverly:
@Xandax: right....you mean you wanted energy for nothing? I have a perpetual motion machine in my basement....

Yes.
Otherwise it would be great to get free energy

Darkpoet · Post by **Darkpoet** » Sun Mar 18, 2001 11:19 am

Do you mean the washing machine and dryer???

Waverly · Post by **Waverly** » Sun Mar 18, 2001 11:21 am

Originally posted by Darkpoet:
Do you mean the washing machine and dryer???

LOL, yes..I recapture the kinetic energy from the spin cycle and use windings to transform it back into electrical energy to power that same machine

Darkpoet · Post by **Darkpoet** » Sun Mar 18, 2001 11:22 am

Hey, anything to keep the lights going..